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la_canadienne: You say you are waiting for a team that is consistent, reliable, and sportsmanlike? Sounds like you are describing Team Jennifer Jones to me. I will also add "classy" to your list of descriptors.
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"Po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe, ta-may-to, tam-ah-to, LETS CALL THE WHOLE THING OFF."
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You must not have read everything else I wrote then. Reliable (1 gold and 1 bronze out of 4 world appearances) and classy (replacing a team member who won the slot for a return to the Scotties) would be the last words I would use to describe those chicas. Sly and selfish come to mind?
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How about democratic?
If 3/4's of the team want a change, majority rules.
Tough titty.
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quote: Originally posted by CaptMorgan
How about democratic?
If 3/4's of the team want a change, majority rules.
Tough titty.
True, its a majority. But if 3 out 4 partners in a business decide to oust the 4th partner, they have to buy that person out. That didn't happen here-to the best of everyones knowledge.
And therein lies the one fact that all the Pro-Jones folks ignore, time and time again. The one truth that makes this different from any other team changes at the end of the season. The player involved earned the berths and opportunities and had them taken away, with no justification, and no recompense.
That's where the failure of the WCT and CCA is so glaring. They need to step up and do something to ensure that players aren't getting ripped off. Because that, ultimately, is what 3 of 4 players did to their teammate. They ripped her off.
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That didn't happen here-to the best of everyones knowledge.
Or did it. No one involved has said.
So why does this thread keep going?
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Or did it. No one involved has said.
So why does this thread keep going?
Jones's silence on the matter leads everyone to presume they gave Overton nothing. In any other similar instance, the team cutting an athlete states that they bought out a cut player (or coach). Complete details aren't necessary, just that the right thing was done and that someone isn't getting ripped off.
Jones being silent doesn't appear to anyone as classy. Any one with PR experience understands that you have to tell the fans something. Even Tiger Woods stood up took accountability to his fans. The circumstances are different, of course, but even he understood that keeping quiet simply made things worse.
Jones could take a lesson in that. Speaking up might have actually gained her sympathy instead of animosity.
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quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Jones's silence on the matter leads everyone to presume they gave Overton nothing. In any other similar instance, the team cutting an athlete states that they bought out a cut player (or coach). Complete details aren't necessary, just that the right thing was done and that someone isn't getting ripped off.
Jones being silent doesn't appear to anyone as classy. Any one with PR experience understands that you have to tell the fans something. Even Tiger Woods stood up took accountability to his fans. The circumstances are different, of course, but even he understood that keeping quiet simply made things worse.
Jones could take a lesson in that. Speaking up might have actually gained her sympathy instead of animos ity.
Not a good idea to speak for everyone. I think it's possible that Jones' silence is classy because if she spoke the truth it may not be in Cathy O's best interest. Jones did give the fans something, she said (paraphrased) that they wer looking towards the 2014 Olympics and they were looking ofr youth at the third position. True or not, she gave the press that information. It might not be what you like to hear, but she hasn't been completely silent.
Unless you are Cathy O or Jennifer Jones, you don't know whether she was bought out or not.
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Not a good idea to speak for everyone. I think it's possible that Jones' silence is classy because if she spoke the truth it may not be in Cathy O's best interest. Jones did give the fans something, she said (paraphrased) that they wer looking towards the 2014 Olympics and they were looking ofr youth at the third position. True or not, she gave the press that information. It might not be what you like to hear, but she hasn't been completely silent.
Unless you are Cathy O or Jennifer Jones, you don't know whether she was bought out or not.
You miss the point (but then all Jones supporters do). Stand up, tell the fans that you've parted ways and that Overton has been financially compensated for her efforts and giving up the earned opportunities. No other details are necessary and its no different than when a team buys out an athletes contract and they go separate ways.
There, done and classy. What happened instead? nothing. So she and her teammates come off appearing as they likely are, rip-off artists stealing from a loyal teammate. As such Jones deserves no sympathy and will likely not get any for years to come.
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It's a slow day at the Home Depot?
Why, do you notice fewer people going to your checkout?
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quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
You miss the point (but then all Jones supporters do). Stand up, tell the fans that you've parted ways and that Overton has been financially compensated for her efforts and giving up the earned opportunities. No other details are necessary and its no different than when a team buys out an athletes contract and they go separate ways.
There, done and classy. What happened instead? nothing. So she and her teammates come off appearing as they likely are, rip-off artists stealing from a loyal teammate. As such Jones deserves no sympathy and will likely not get any for years to come.
Here's what the Jones haters always miss.
Why is it your or anyone else's business?
Do you ask people what their income is? It's none of your business.
They may have dumped COC because she's an abusive, disrespectful cow.
Jones's silence is not unclassy.
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quote: Originally posted by CaptMorgan
Here's what the Jones haters always miss.
Why is it your or anyone else's business?
Do you ask people what their income is? It's none of your business.
They may have dumped COC because she's an abusive, disrespectful cow.
Jones's silence is not unclassy.
Just wanted to quote this before you decide to edit it.
Idiocy reigns supreme in the Morgan family.
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ur saying unreliable cuz she only has 2 world medals. try and count how many people have 4 world appearences in canada. its not like there is a big list. thats pretty reliable. and she constantly is at the top of the world curling tour money list and order of merit. but if you think thats unreliable then i guess ur one hard person to please. but u get ur opinion so thats fine. she has more accomplishments than any other active competitive skip right now. and obviously the 3 team players wanted her gone, and all were on the same page. and obviously cathy o wasnt going to agree with it but the 3 out of 4 wanted her out. that was a team decision. and saying she waited to long to tell her. she told her as soon as the season ended. its not like she broke the news to her a few days before their first event this year or anything.
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thats fine that coc gets her 1/4 of the winnings, so they should send her the bill for 1/4 of the expenses too.
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quote: Originally posted by guido
Idiocy reigns supreme in the Morgan family.
Could be worse. I could drink Wild Turkey bourbon.
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The most ironic thing about this whole discussion is the fact that if it were any other curler besides JJ who cut a team member, nobody would utter a peep.
You people are sad.
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quote: Originally posted by CaptMorgan
Here's what the Jones haters always miss.
Why is it your or anyone else's business?
Do you ask people what their income is? It's none of your business.
They may have dumped COC because she's an abusive, disrespectful cow not unlike my mother.
Jones's silence is not unclassy.
LOL, here is what Captain Morgan misses. We have the right to free speech and Curlingzone provides a Forum where we can express said free speech.
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LOL, here is what Captain Morgan misses. We have the right to free speech and Curlingzone provides a Forum where we can express said free speech.
Ya...I know. You are going to get a lawyer after me and make my head spin.
LOL.
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LOL, are you trying to limit our right to free speech? If so I can get a constitutional lawyer on your case so fast your head will be spinning for years to come.
Have a nice day
LOL LOL
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Hey, Capt Morgan. I thought you were going to be at the Perry last night. I looked all over for you.
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Hey, Capt Morgan. I thought you were going to be at the Perry last night. I looked all over for you.
Did you look under the table in the corner?
Do you know what you're looking for??
50 year old fat, bald guy?
20 year old Arts student?
40 something pre-menopausal divorcee?
Nah, I wasn't there. But I know one of the guys singing in the band. I may go watch him.
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Did you look under the table in the corner?
Do you know what you're looking for??
50 year old fat, bald guy?
20 year old Arts student?
40 something pre-menopausal divorcee?
Nah, I wasn't there. But I know one of the guys singing in the band. I may go watch him.
OK, post your real picture next time and then I will be able to identify you when I go there next time.
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LOL, look for a guy in an effeminate pirate costume
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Here's what the Jones haters always miss.
Why is it your or anyone else's business?
Do you ask people what their income is? It's none of your business.
They may have dumped COC because she's an abusive, disrespectful cow.
Jones's silence is not unclassy.
Sure its unclassy and its just plain dumb. When a pro team cuts a player they release them and buy them out. They also release a statement to that effect. They don't detail how much, just that it was done.
As for if its anyone's business. If curling wants to be in the big time then its the fans who pay for that. So the fan has a certain right to know whats going on. Plus its not about the income, its about putting the right PR spin on the issue. And lets face it, on this Jones gets a D minus.
Pretty stupid move for a corporate lawyer to make.
If these competitive teams are going to continue to make these moves they better wise up. Fans and media want explanations. Not providing them only makes people think the worst. The animosity against Jones has nothing to do with cutting Overton. It's her silence on the matter that causes it. It makes her-and her teammates-look arrogant, cold and classless.
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LOL, look for a guy in an effeminate pirate costume
Yes! Look for this guy.
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Yes! Look for this guy.
Sorry, you will have to be more specific, that does not narrow it down.
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