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Does anyone know if there is online streaming of the Tankard?

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no but as a previous poster mentioned Rogers has archives online if you are a subscriber.

Rough day for Howard today- 14 ends out of a possible 30. Surprised that even Corner could not give him a better game.
(only reason that game went 6 was because it wes being televised)

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Go Glenn!

Could be only Mike Anderson giving Howard a tough time on his way to winning ON.
Liked the post-game comment that Glenn has a personal Trainer now ( 3 years ) and becuz of his better fitness he's finding this "marathon" a lot easier to take.

On the flip side could be fitness or lack thereof ( and old aches and pains) that slows down the Corner rink of retreads. Still some great curling but very grueling if you arent in good shape.

Bit of a cart before the horse but this could be one of the threesome to contend at the Brier.. with the big matchups between Middaugh,Morris and Mead ( 3M's hmm)

The Howard rink's looking good..staying consistent and not taking anyone for granted.

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The Howard rink's looking good..staying consistent and not taking anyone for granted.

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Agree completely- the interviewer said to Saville that this competition was only a speed bump to the Brier and to his credit he jumped all over that comment. He indicated that this was more than a speed bump and they take the Tankard very seriously!

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no but as a previous poster mentioned Rogers has archives online if you are a subscriber.

Rough day for Howard today- 14 ends out of a possible 30. Surprised that even Corner could not give him a better game.
(only reason that game went 6 was because it wes being televised)

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UpYerKilt
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The Howard rink's looking good..staying consistent and not taking anyone for granted.

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Agree completely- the interviewer said to Saville that this competition was only a speed bump to the Brier and to his credit he jumped all over that comment. He indicated that this was more than a speed bump and they take the Tankard very seriously!

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well Leigh isn't a "trained" TV commentator so she and the other guys may not have all that diplomatic polish of ones we're used to.. but they love curling and not even sure if they are compensated for their work on Rogers.

One thing I'd like to add is that I loved Rich Hart on the mike.
His in depth analysis and pleasant fielding questions was a real education.
He really should look to do more on the Curling mike because he has current on-ice experience and a winning record that shows his thinking has cred.

Thanks to all the people who got this Dominion telecast..it really is much appreciated.. and here's hope it includes both genders next season.

Curling needs to keep growing!

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For the poor bastards that do not have Rogers, it leaves quite a bit to be desired, webcast would be much appreciated. We are a captive audience here in Kingston where your choices are either Cogeco or Bell Expressvu. I tried signing on with Rogers using my cell phone info but no luck.

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For the poor bastards that do not have Rogers, it leaves quite a bit to be desired, webcast would be much appreciated. We are a captive audience here in Kingston where your choices are either Cogeco or Bell Expressvu. I tried signing on with Rogers using my cell phone info but no luck.

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well Leigh isn't a "trained" TV commentator so she and the other guys may not have all that diplomatic polish of ones we're used to.. but they love curling and not even sure if they are compensated for their work on Rogers.

One thing I'd like to add is that I loved Rich Hart on the mike.
His in depth analysis and pleasant fielding questions was a real education.
He really should look to do more on the Curling mike because he has current on-ice experience and a winning record that shows his thinking has cred.

Thanks to all the people who got this Dominion telecast..it really is much appreciated.. and here's hope it includes both genders next season.

Curling needs to keep growing!

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Great Point

for sure.. it does kinda sound like the other Teams are less than.. Maybe she will "get the pt" for any future comments like that..
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sad part is she was right. This is basically the howard teams title for the taking.

randy ferbey said in his analysis of the laberta provincial that the other teams are going to need the 2 kevins to bring their B game to have any kind of shot and thats the same thing here

its not only boring but also kind of frustrating because we see these teams challenge glenn and kevin everywhere else and then they get here and their just not competitive.

when are the up and coming mens teams going to be able to step up like the ladies are and challenging the top guys?

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It is being broadcast on COGECO as well, and if you were to turn it to the station now, you could watch curling in Kingston. COGECO and Rogers partner to broadcast the provincials each year, with the production being done by the group that has the cable rights in the host city.

I understand people being upset about no streaming, but for Rogers/Cogeco it's also a competitive advantage to only show it on television. If you want to watch the Tankard and other great curling, you should change to cable.

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sad part is she was right. This is basically the howard teams title for the taking.

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when are the up and coming mens teams going to be able to step up like the ladies are and challenging the top guys?

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when these up and coming Teams get more experience under their belts.. and besides..Howard, Corner, Middaugh, Cracks, etc..arent getting any younger

The real trouble is that these top 3-4 Teams in canada seem to be able to travel and compete whenever they want..

when do they get sponsors like P&G and WFG etc etc giving the young enough money so they can take their game up?
To me, the biggest problem is that everything in Canada is focused on these elite curlers...

Time to look at Youth and build them..not sit and wait until the kids either get sick of trying or step away from competitive events

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when these up and coming Teams get more experience under their belts.. and besides..Howard, Corner, Middaugh, Cracks, etc..arent getting any younger

The real trouble is that these top 3-4 Teams in canada seem to be able to travel and compete whenever they want..

when do they get sponsors like P&G and WFG etc etc giving the young enough money so they can take their game up?
To me, the biggest problem is that everything in Canada is focused on these elite curlers...

Time to look at Youth and build them..not sit and wait until the kids either get sick of trying or step away from competitive events

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Well M & M is putting money into Juniors..

Not sure what the sponsors answer is but I do wonder why P&G will put all that money into the Howard Team here in ON yet we hear that Team Homan had to take part-time jobs, go to school and also have time to keep their level of Curling at the Top.

Ask yourself why an American Financial Inst. like Capital One supports the elite curlers in the Canadian Slams..good but what about other curlers?

Sobeys ( Maritime Family company) is finally spreading out across Canada and put up their name on that fabulous Rec Center in Leduc which hosted the AB Scotties... yet we hear of the Maritime Teams who seem to really be struggling with enough money to travel to cash spiels and events which are required to get to a Top Level

It's all over the place..no rhyme or reason..no control ( except by some curling admins who say what cresting Teams can wear at certain events)

Its like The Cdn Curling scene is inventing itself as it goes along.


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I agree totally! There is going to come a time when Glenn and the gang hang it up and there is not much coming behind, especially in male curling in Ontario! What the heck are they doing differently in Northern Ontario? The future seems so much brighter up there!

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It's a doubled edged sword as to why there is such a separation amongst the teams.
1. Putting the young teams on the ice against Howard is akin to playing the Masters vs Tiger. With such pristine conditions and greens that are difficult to navigate, the young curlers are challenged to both get comfortable in that environment and learn how to throw the rock on arena ice.
2. Funding - Howard's team has qualified for significant Sport Canada funding and that combined with their corporate funding allows them to travel to all the elite events and compete against the best week in and week out. This has put Canada in an extremely strong position internationally to compete for medals in the Olympics but what it has done has driven a wedge to further distance the top teams from the regular tour guys. Consequently, some of these teams are made to look like local club curlers against Howard.
The trickle down has been, IMO, that great events like the Ottawa spiel to fall away. Everyone has become to dam serious trying to catch up and the game is losing some spirit. Gone are the days of someone trying to be king of the parties and then king of the ice the next day.
The problem is coaches and trainers are trying to teach this wealth of knowledge to the up and comers and the bottom line is they have to find a way and go out and take their lumps and learn by competing week in and week out. It aint cheap, and it takes a lot of time, but no classroom discussion replaces the act of competing.

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Whats different up there is there's no Glenn Howard.

Team Howard may be one of the top 5 teams EVER in curling. How are you all forgetting that?

Look at how equal the rest of the field is in Ontario. It's the same in Northern Ontario, except that there's no runaway favourite like Glenn (don't say Jacobs - see how last year's final ended, and look at the standings this year).

There are a solid handful of teams at the Ont provs right now who would do very well at the Brier. We've already seen Corner do well there.

But I guess you wanna talk young teams. So OK, lets do that.

You've got great young teams right now in Deruelle and Anderson challenging for playoff spots. That seems pretty promising, and I'm sure not many outside avid followers or participants of OCT evens know those guys. And Mark Kean's rink is pretty solid as well, they've been to a few Grand Slam events.

Looking around the rest of the tournament - there's not that many "older" front ends out there. In fact, other than Team Cochrane, pretty much every team there has at least a few young players.

And finally although they crashed out in playdowns, Team Epping made a Grand Slam final this year (guess who he lost to - my first point exactly). He's what, 27 (?), and his front end have a combined age of like 40. How is that less promising for the future than whats happening anywhere else?

Give your heads a shake everyone. There's plenty of great, promising, young teams in Ontario. They just aren't quite there yet. You can't forget how good Glenn and their team are, and you have to realize that you don't breakthrough overnight.

These days you have to do it like McEwen - no young team has worked harder at it, and it took them quite a few years to get to the top. Oh and guess what - they've still never been to a Brier.

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Good to see Balsdon at 3-5. Perhaps now he will do the correct thing and pick either men's or men's club and not both. Karma is a good thing.

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It's a doubled edged sword as to why there is such a separation amongst the teams.
1. Putting the young teams on the ice against Howard is akin to playing the Masters vs Tiger. With such pristine conditions and greens that are difficult to navigate, the young curlers are challenged to both get comfortable in that environment and learn how to throw the rock on arena ice.
2. Funding - Howard's team has qualified for significant Sport Canada funding and that combined with their corporate funding allows them to travel to all the elite events and compete against the best week in and week out. This has put Canada in an extremely strong position internationally to compete for medals in the Olympics but what it has done has driven a wedge to further distance the top teams from the regular tour guys. Consequently, some of these teams are made to look like local club curlers against Howard.
The trickle down has been, IMO, that great events like the Ottawa spiel to fall away. Everyone has become to dam serious trying to catch up and the game is losing some spirit. Gone are the days of someone trying to be king of the parties and then king of the ice the next day.
The problem is coaches and trainers are trying to teach this wealth of knowledge to the up and comers and the bottom line is they have to find a way and go out and take their lumps and learn by competing week in and week out. It aint cheap, and it takes a lot of time, but no classroom discussion replaces the act of competing.

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Over the weekend some Rogers TV stations will have conflicts with Ontario Hockey League and Toronto Marlies' broadcasts.. Typically hockey airs live while curling is tape delayed to immediately following the live hockey game.

In an effott to keep hockey and curling fans happy Rogers Digital Cable customers will be able to watch draws that are scheduled as tape delayed LIVE on channel 470.... you will need a digital box from Rogers but the service is free and does not require a subscription during the curling... For several markets this will be important tonight...

So tune to your community channel, if no curling is there but you know they are playing in Stratford then tune to channel 470...

This will help with conflicts over the weekend...

Thanks....

We are checking on where Cogeco will have the draws...

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Maybe I was too easy on Leigh earlier.....did I just hear her say that the Corner team has won 12 Ontario titles together? Not the first cringe worthy comment I've heard this week.

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